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  Online Higher Education

  by SonoftheTrinity in

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  since the faithful and discreet slave class now opposes higher education because it allegedly brings with it 'bad association', i wonder what their take is on online education.

  let's remember that distance education was pioneered by fundamentalist saudi arabia and apartheid south africa for the very reasons that the jehovah's witnesses criticize higher education.

  my wife is one of the faithful and i fear for our kids future, that they will see no point in keeping their grades up.

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  Will they become engineers, without knowing how to collaborate and work with a team ?

  Part of the online engineering course that I am doing actually includes carrying out a group project with five other students. Such technologies as Skype, Dropbox etc. now make this possible. Practical exercises are also a regular feature of this course, using a technology called "Virtual Lab." This is veryreal: - the only thing missing is the electric shock you would otherwise receive if you were being a bit careless!

  Distance Education has come a long way since the days of International Correspondence Schools (ICS), and similar such institutions of the "Snail Mail" age.

  All this may be derided by some, and I can quite see their point. However, on-line education does give the likes of myself a second chance

  i.e. Having missed out on going to university for reasons all of us here are all too familiar with, and now working full time on remote sites, far away from any college.

  Bill.
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  STOP calling JW's a CULT--unless . . . they fit the checklist!

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it is unkind, premature and even irresponsible to label people with whom we disagree using pejorative names.. for example, labeling a movement as a cult.. consider this example:.

  sociologists d. bromley and a. shupe once described what they called the tnevnoc cult.

  membership was open only to women, who were required to shave their heads, change their names, and wear specific clothing once they had entered the group.

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  In other words, thay are a bloody cult all-right!

  Bill
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  Online Higher Education

  by SonoftheTrinity in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  since the faithful and discreet slave class now opposes higher education because it allegedly brings with it 'bad association', i wonder what their take is on online education.

  let's remember that distance education was pioneered by fundamentalist saudi arabia and apartheid south africa for the very reasons that the jehovah's witnesses criticize higher education.

  my wife is one of the faithful and i fear for our kids future, that they will see no point in keeping their grades up.

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  The online Advanced Diploma course that I am currently undertaking uses what they call a "Virtual Classroom" (or "Webinar" ) to counter those difficulties of distance education that you mention. The Virtual Classroom allows students to interact with both each other and the lecturer via either the chatbox or the microphone.

  Having completed the theoretical component of my appranticeship by distance education, then attempted several correspondence courses after that, I am very familiar with the problems of studying by distance education. The Virtual Classroom, though, is a very effective way of keeping students motivated. (Anybody interested in pursuing such a course could check out the website www.eit.edu.au)

  As an aside, this WTS / FDS / BG nonsense about "bad associations at college" merits further comment. They are okay with a young person leaving school and going to work, but not going to college - because of the issue of "bad associations". Do those idiots really believe that a young person is not going to be exposed to "bad associations" in the workplace? If so, they they are indeedtotally out of touch with reality! (As I remember well as a 17 year old, dropped fair into the middle of an alcohol-sodden workplace environment!)

  Bill.
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  BBC Radio 4 reference to 607 Babylonian conquest?

  by 88JM in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  was listening to bbc radio 4 late sunday night, and in a programme about migration, they referenced the "babylonian conquest of jerusalem in 607 b.c.

  " which caught my attention.. did they not mean 587 b.c., or did i understand it wrong?.

  the link to the programme is below - sorry if you're not in the u.k. as you probably won't be able to listen to bbc programmes.

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  Where is djeggnog (or is it DJDamnfool?) right now? He used to have alot to say on this matter!

  Bill
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  "Witness to Murder" an upcoming program on US TV about a JW family will air August 20th...

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was informed yesterday that a us cable tv channel named investigation discovery will be broadcasting a 7-part series named "deadly devotion.

  " one program in the series is "witness to murder" which will air wednesday evening, august 20th, probably at 9 p.m. est.

  check the schedule on the internet which lists the date and time of broadcast two-weeks ahead.

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  Thanks for posting this. Down here, we are unlikely to see this presentation any time soon, so I will try and get hold of a copy of the book.

  Bill.
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  What's your personality type? Myers-Briggs test

  by frankiespeakin in

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  take this 72 yes/no question test to find out.. http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/jtypes2.asp.

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  INTJ

  "Introverted, Intuitive, Thinking, Judgemental"

  Actually a bit of a worry, so was Ulysses S. Grant:

  - and (those of you in America please correct me if I am wrong) I understand that he was something of a drunk?

  Bill
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  Awake 1973 banned Witnesses playing Chess..why?

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  are all articles from jehovahs thoughts or do personal biased views poison the watchtower articles?

  imagine a brother who hates chess observing in discust two bethelites playing chess...would it be right to use jehovahs "spiritual food" to push your own warped view....yes!!.

  awake 1973 3/22 p.12 chess- "...the spirit of compitition between players can lead to unplesant circumstances...most families can keep comfrontations to the chess board...but for some the tension lingers long past checkmate...chess has been a game of war since its origin...a play substitute for the art of war...there is a danger of "stirring up compitition with one another" even developing hostility towards one another, something the bible warns christians to avoid..what effect does playing chess have apoun one?

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  The timing of that particular Awake article is no coincidence. For a lengthy period during the previous year, 1972, there had been a (very) well publicised series of chess games between the American Bobby Fischer and the Russian Boris Spasky.

  During this time, chess sets sold like never before - and probably like never since, as well. In fact, the expression"Chess Craze" would not be too strong a term to use to describe the hysteria that caught on over this series of chess games.

  The media certainly hyped it up, and until the final saga of the Vietnam war (at least its allied intervention, anyway) displaced it later in that year, it seemed as if this chess match was all the media could talk about.

  This sudden, new found enthusiasm for chess did catch on in the JW congregations, as well - which almost certainly prompted that Awake article. (After all, old Kill Joy would have to have something to say about anything that might actually entertain people!)

  Bill
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  99.9% Of a People Who Believe In Evolution Don't Understand It.

  by Space Madness in

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  i never believed in evolution as i thought it didn't make sense and that what was proposed was simply impossible.

  how could an environment alter an organism's dna?

  as we can see however, bacteria cannot become resistance to antibiotics.

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  Sounds a bit like the "brother" who "brought me into the truth."

  His way of dealing with the matter of evolution was to ask a person "which theory of evolution do you believe in?" Then, when they could not answer that question, it was supposed to be a thought stopper. However, it was all an excercise in smoke and mirrors - as that opinionated, uneducated knowall twerp had no more idea of how many "theories" of evolution there were than those he was preaching to.

  Take any branch of science that you care to mention, and you will find there is still much to learn. Furthermore, this situation is unlikely to change anytime soon. However, that fact in no way means that science is all nonsense, i.e. just because there is still much to learn:

  This very much includes evolution.

  Bill.
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  1914 vs 2014

  by ILoveTTATT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's amazing to examine the watchtower of 1914 now in 2014... 100 years later.. .

  here are some of my comments on the watchtower of 1914:.

  second article in january 1st.

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  Is it wrong to mock and ridicule the Watchtower Society?

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  robert j ingersoll on the great voltaire:.

  "it has been claimed by the christian critics that voltaire was irreverent; that he examined sacred things without solemnity; that he refused to remove his shoes in the presence of the burning bush; that he smiled at the geology of moses, the astronomical ideas of joshua, and that the biography of jonah filled him with laughter.

  they say that these stories, these sacred impossibilities, these inspired falsehoods, should be read and studied with a believing mind in humbleness of spirit; that they should be examined prayerfully, asking god at the same time to give us strength to triumph over the conclusions of our reason.

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  What is so bloody sacred about the Watch Tower Society that they should be immune from ridicule?

  However, there is mocking and then there is mocking

  You mean it is all-right for you to take the mickey out of somebody, but God help anybody that tries to have ago at the Watch Tower Society!

  Bill.